- Wiesner Committee report
Has the whole thing ever been released? All I can find online is the
excerpts in NASA's stuff online. But not the whole thing.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Mike
- Re: OT: looking for a wall calendar of lunar phases.
Out here in Hawaii, I've seen calendars showing the phase for every day
(with the Hawaiian name for each day's moon, what to plant and what to
fish for)... don't know if that's too specific, though.
-Dan
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
That was one of the plot devices in Heinlein's "Rocket Ship Galileo."
Cargraves was trying to create an atomic turbine, but the blades kept
being sliced off. Then one day it hit him that he has a rocket.
The mind boggles at the thought of Goddard with an unlimited budget.
Mike
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
I just looked it up in SP-121 (Gemini Midprogram Conference including
experiment results). On page 68, we are told that fecal matter was
handled with "individual plasti bags with adhesive-lined circular
tops." There was a disinfectant in the bag. "Use required
considerable care and effort," and there was training.
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
Here's another version
[link]
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
To fly from Earth to Moon and land there requires that we impart 12.6
km/sec to the speed of a vehicle and then slow the vehicle by about
2.4 km/sec - a total of 15.0 km/sec. The vehicle must then impart
another 2.4 km/sec to return to Earth. 17.4 km/sec total.
A three stage vehicle that had an exhaust speed of 4.5 km/sec and a
- Re: Falcon 9/Dragon shoot for Oct 23 launch date
Solved by keeping the exact landing site secret for this launch.
OTOH, what a great plot for a James Bond movie.
Capsule goes up with $1M, comes down successfully, open hatch ceremony
reveals... Envelope containing letter of thanks from SPECTRE!
Da Da Da DAAAA Da Daa Da....
Dudlee De Dum De Da Dum....
- Re: Falcon 9/Dragon shoot for Oct 23 launch date
Solved by keeping the exact landing site secret for this launch.
OTOH, what a great plot for a James Bond movie.
Capsule goes up with $1M, comes down successfully, open hatch ceremony
reveals... Envelope containing letter of thanks from SPECTRE!
Da Da Da DAAAA Da Daa Da....
Dudlee De Dum De Da Dum....
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
BTW, he wasn't the first person to come up with the idea of driving
propellers by shooting rocket exhaust onto a turbine to drive them.
Meet the Berdan torpedo of the 1880's:
[link]
I may be being too harsh about Goddard's turbo-rocket plane; it is a
clever solution using rocket power to drive the props at low speed, but
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
8,000 ft/sec is about 250 sec Isp.
A propellant weight of 63.21% total vehicle weight would allow rocket
speed to equal exhaust speed.
Goddard's first flight was in 1926 and lasted only 2.5 seconds and
flew 41 feet. It was mostly a frame 4 meters long and had a 0.5 meter
by 0.1 meter diameter fuel tank and oxidizer tank - looks like high
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
The Mercury and Gemini astronauts used diapers to go to the bathroom
derived from systems developed for long-duration bomber flights.
Apollo astronauts had bags to collect feces and urine and dumped it
over-board daily. Shuttle and ISS has a proper bathroom for zero gee
and sponge baths. On Star Trek they go where no one has gone before.
- Re: Falcon 9/Dragon shoot for Oct 23 launch date
And everyone with a rowboat or an innertube will be trying to get to
the landing site... like all those folks in kayaks in McCovey Cove
trying to get Splash Hits when Bonds still played for the S.F. Giants.
Someone opens the hatch, crawls inside to get the mil and everyone
else trying to clamber aboard brings the lower edge of the hatch below
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
On the long duration Gemini 7 flight, the astronauts were given special
pressure suits they could take off once in orbit, but that cabin still
looks awfully small to try to defecate and wipe yourself in.
My old girlfriend called mine "The Gobbler" as she thought it resembled
a male turkey head and neck.
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
It showed up on Turner Classic Movies at least once.
It's a very strange thing, a very big budget musical comedy that's
partly Vaudeville, partly slapstick.
Here's the incredibly involved dirigible crew's drinking song from it:
[link]
Here's some more info on the movie:
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
I have no idea, and I've not seen that references in any of the Gemini
documents I have. To be honest, I admit I've never looked for it.
Women are fascinated by the penis. This is, of course, a Very Good
Thing.
Mike
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
Well, that certainly adds to my store of conversation. (American
Science & Surplus used to sell the penis-molding kit but under another
designation.)
Is "Just Imagine" a lost movie? I keep seeing stills from it, but
never anything about a copy of it. I bet a dozen could be sold
through this list alone.
- Re: Danish astronuts almost ready to go.
The launch has now been pushed back to Saturday:
[link]
Pat
- Re: Danish astronuts almost ready to go.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wears an inflatable "G-Suit" like is worn
by fighter pilots:
[link]
The test launch of the rocket is now scheduled for today (Thursday) at
the earliest, although they have a launch window that extends to
September 17th.
Pat
- Re: New Big Gemini model
Its merits are still debated.
Here's McDonnell-Douglas trying to hijack the Moon program:
[link]
Something very much like those designs showed up in the Robert Altman
movie "Countdown", where a astronaut made a solo one-way flight to the
Moon in a Gemini mounted atop a LM descent stage.
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
I know the details of the Apollo one, but how was that problem addressed
on the longer Gemini flights?
Dr. Helen Caldicott made that resemblence one of the main points in her
book "Missile Envy".
Pat
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
Clean back to the stone age:
[link]
It was from a statement Goddard sent to the Smithsonian in 1916
regarding his work on solid-fueled rockets:
[link]
The big prop spaceship that was originally built for the 1930 musical
- Re: New Big Gemini model
There were different SM sizes for different launchers - one was only 3m
diameter for the Titan IIIM and another was 6m diameter for the Saturn Ib.
- Re: Danish astronuts almost ready to go.
In sci.space.history message <6bf5c0ec-bd13-46af-8121-ffde4 36eb713@z7g20
00yqg.googlegroups.com>, Tue, 31 Aug 2010 04:37:41, Quadibloc
posted:
Other payload can be put beside the passenger, as it apparently was for
Laika.
The Dane could be largely protected from G-force by filling his
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- Re: New Big Gemini model
Okay, I get it now. Wgen I posted that the proprtions didn't look right, I
though this was a BIG model of a Gemini capsule. I hadn't heard of a BIG Gemini
project to carry more personnel and more supplies. Interesting concept.
- Re: ATK Ares DM-2 crapped all over my house.
To paraphrase a favorite movie line...
'I *love* the smell of burnt urethane in the morning.
It smells like, Space Exploration!!!'
;-)
Dave
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
Or maybe there's a way to go under the instrument panel to get to the
nose. Where's the toilet?
I had a girl friend who commented once that submarines were phallic.
I pointed out to her that anything that needs to penetrate a fluid or
a very flexible solid would be shaped that way. That would have been
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
Did the average person know what a dildo looked like, in 1930? How
old are dildos in the public arena? (The great thing about human
history is how things connect.)
David Clary's biography of Goddard ("Rocket Man") doesn't seem to
report exhaust velocity of any of Goddard's rockets.
I'm always fascinated by this era's approach to cockpit design. My
- Re: ATK Ares DM-2 crapped all over my house.
And now, you're breathing it in....
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- Re: New Big Gemini model
The overall design never did finalized, although there was one
full-sized mock-up of a version of the reentry module made:
[link]
The one the model seems to represent is a fly-alone variant that will be
used for space station crew change/cargo delivery, similar to the fourth
- Re: New Big Gemini model
The thing was considered an alternative to the X-20 Dyna-Soar.
The width of the back equipment module makes it look like it's supposed
to ride into orbit on the top of a Saturn I or Saturn IB.
NASA had a hell of a time convincing McDonnell-Douglas to stop
presenting new Gemini-derived ideas to them in competition to Apollo on
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
Yeah, but this is back in the grand-old-age of vacuum tubes, so once you
get those running, and add the heat of the astronaut's metabolism to the
equation, and things are going to get mighty hot in there in a mighty
big hurry.
I'm still trying to figure out what the windows on the side of the
nosecone are about, as it doesn't look like there's any way for the
- Re: New Big Gemini model
For some reason, the proportions don't look right to me. Of the capsule or the
service module. It just doesn't look like every picture I've every seen of the
package.
- Re: New Big Gemini model
They could have had the equivalent of the Space Shuttle by 1971, even
if it wasn't reusable?
John Savard
- Re: Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
Talk about taking coals to Newcastle! Using vacuum bottle insulation
to protect astronauts from the cold of space?
Ah, well. He didn't have the benefit of modern research, and, in fact,
perhaps vacuum bottle insulation might actually be a good thing to
have on a space capsule... to protect astronauts from the heat of re-
- OT: looking for a wall calendar of lunar phases.
for 2010-1011. I've seen such a catalog a couple of years ago, and I
know someone who had one. I can't find anything like that, and I've
googled for entirely too long. Any ideas?
Thanks.
- ATK Ares DM-2 crapped all over my house.
At first I was like: [link]
But then I was all: [link]
- Re: Falcon 9/Dragon shoot for Oct 23 launch date
I *still* say they should shove $1 million in cash into it (Dragon capsule).
Put some 'skin' into the game as they say. Great publicity.
Dave
- Falcon 9/Dragon shoot for Oct 23 launch date
[link]
Pat
- Goddard's 1930 Manned Moonship
Looks a bit like a Apollo CSM; looks even more like a flying dildo:
[link]
I imagine that unfortunate resemblance was one of the things that turned
Goddard off on the press.
I had serious doubts that he ever built a rocket that reached a speed of
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- Re: Danish astronuts almost ready to go.
I will admit to some chagrin that they haven't at least done some
centrifuge tests to see if 3 g standing up is really tolerable. They
will be putting accelerometers on their dummy at least.
However, this has given me some inspiration.
Surely some space was wasted by having the Mercury rockets circular in
- Re: New Big Gemini model
IIRC, those are crew transport vehicles; the missiles are in those
rectangles of small circular hatches forward of the gun bays, with a
total of 90 missiles being carried.
The Orion battleships were supposed to make up the Deep Space
Bombardment Force, hanging around out in orbits at lunar distances,
- Re: New Big Gemini model
Those aren't missiles... those are the "landing boats" used for
resupply and crew up/down transfer.
- Re: New Big Gemini model
Looks like the missiles even have wings - improved performance against
U.F.O's? If only the Purple-haired Ladies had this baby in their arsenal!
- Re: New Big Gemini model
Resin small production run ones always run high in price; they don't
expect to sell all that many of them, so they recoup their design and
production costs by charging a lot for each kit.
You want to get something that everyone will really notice, try this on
for size:
[link]
- Re: New Big Gemini model
90 bucks? PHEW!
- New Big Gemini model
In 1/48th scale:
[link]
Looks to be a really sharp model.
Pat
- Re: Danish astronuts almost ready to go.
These guys had better have their wills probated and sins confessed
before launching.
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