- Re: Field de-rotation by software?
Thanks to everyone for the feedback.
Chris, I realise that what I am looking for may be uncommon. The problem
itself is rather interesting and I am sure there MUST BE something already
written (program) that can handle the problem. As you stated the end
results may not be perfect however, but then the program will ony work as
- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
As you are still here, I might ask some even-more-stupid questions.
By way of background, I know a fair bit about theoretical astronomy, physics
(optics), and computers. I like gadgets and "systems engineering". I built a
6" reflector telescope when I was a teenager (ie ground the mirror by hand),
- Re: "Space elevator" idea almost as stupid as the ISS
I have to agree this time with you Rich:)
A "Space Elevator" really is just science fiction.
I mean, what about WIND?
Oh, we don't worry about that....
As far as Colonization...hmmmm.
I can see a "Moon Base" but other bases? Nope not for a long time.
As far as Colonizing Mars?
I seem to recall an experiment some years ago in a dome.
- Re: so why didnt soviets expose fake moon landing?
So then you claim JAXA/Selene has not verified the Apollo moon
landings.
from
[link]
Quoting now
The "halo" area around Apollo 15 landing site observed by Terrain
Camera on SELENE(KAGUYA)
JAXA reported on the "halo" generated by the Apollo 15 lunar module
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- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
Of course not. I don't think I said anything to suggest that. I said
reproducibility is a major _advantage_.
Even a live image (which is typically the lowest quality image there is)
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In article ,
Even if reproducibility is not a goal, it's hardly a disadvantage.
Unexpected things may always happen. And if you observed something
unusual, your observation will gain more credibility if you managed to
photograph it than if you merely saw it visually.
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- Re: so why didnt soviets expose fake moon landing?
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 06:59:09 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by BradGuth
:
Uh, Brad? Maybe you should check your lithium. I didn't, and
can't, "shut down our Usenet/newsgroups".
And yet your post is right here for all to see. Seems the
Evil Usenet Masters must be slipping. Ever think that the
- Re: Is the Moon *really* as dark as coal? -Guy Macon
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:02:26 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by BradGuth
:
Two points: First, you need to cite references to support
this claim ("should detect"). Second, you need to cite a
reference for these alleged "complex surface deposits".
Cite the published equipment specifications, please. *Then*
- Re: so why didnt soviets expose fake moon landing?
You certainly went along with the global domination intent of Hitler
and the likes of whatever our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) and his
bed-wetting partners have pulled off, though I can't tell for certain
if that means anything.
~ BG
- Re: so why didnt soviets expose fake moon landing?
Once again, you're doing just great. Keep up the good work.
Btw, it's not of just one dozen or any other dozen and some odd
anomalies that simply doesn't add up to what should be loads of bright
and shiny plus fairly stuff as situated upon our physically dark as
coal but otherwise mineral rich Selene/moon.
- Re: so why didnt soviets expose fake moon landing?
You're doing just great. Keep up the good work.
Btw, it's not just one dozen or any other dozen and some odd anomalies
that doesn't add up.
Walking on our physically dark Selene/moon is only a tadbit different
than one-way hard landing deployments or the semi-controlled impacting
of Apollo stuff onto that extremely nasty, crystal dry, electrostatic
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- Re: NASA misidentified Mars salts in press conference.
As you or most anyone half as smart as a 5th grader should know, Mars
has darn little surface salt to its name. If there was ever water on
Mars it had to have been mostly fresh water or of some other mineral
brine kind of soup or muck that was extremely low in salt, but
otherwise unusually paramagnetic if not actually rather magnetic.
- Re: Guy Macon on whether the Apollo moon landing was a hoax:
Why? Venus doesn't take up a lot of space in the sky. Venus is also
between the Earth/Moon and the Sun. If they were facing the Eath and
shooting it in full view, than the Sun (and Venus) would be behind
them. If Venus were close to Earth/Moon, it would be presenting its
"dark side" to us.
EARTH MOON VENUS MERCURY SUN
- Re: Guy Macon on whether the Apollo moon landing was a hoax:
I've been asking Brad where his numbers come from for years!
- Re: so why didnt soviets expose fake moon landing?
Or, you could be completely wrong and they didn't have any problems at
all!
I'm going with that one.
- Re: Is the Moon *really* as dark as coal? -Guy Macon
Apparently the basic laws of physics work differently in Brad's world
than they do here on Earth where it would be difficult to get guano
dust on a terrestrial island to behave as if it were in a vacuum. It
would also be difficult to get the flag(s) from any of the missions to
sit there passively (sp?) while people in suits jumped around them
- Re: Is the Moon *really* as dark as coal? -Guy Macon
Wow. You seem to know a lot less about actual applied (or even
general) research than I thought you did.
- Re: Is the Moon *really* as dark as coal? -Guy Macon
Oh no. I've been reading this guy for years. He give countless amounts
of evidence. He just doesn't verify it or state its source so we can
vouch for its legitimacy.
- Re: Is the Moon *really* as dark as coal? -Guy Macon
Besides the supposedly terrific gamma spectrometry form of geophysics
in planetology imaging that should detect those sorts of complex
surface deposits, and to some extent of what the crust of Mercury
contains, why exactly is the Messenger image quality of the visible
spectrum that’s offered for public review so unusually deprived of
- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
In article ,
I agree that, for planets, galaxies and nebulae, imaging is
unbeatable.
I've not seen images that capture the contrasty nature of a star
cluster seen through a large scope, basically because no screen
technology that I know of can do the transition between space-black
- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
I would call that _a_ major advantage, not _the_ major advantage.
Advantages depend on intent, and reproducibility may not necessarily be
a goal.
Again, this depends on intent and personal taste. I've never seen any
object directly through a telescope (with the possible exception of
Saturn) that gave me anywhere near the satisfaction of seeing an image
- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
In article <48e78269$0$4453$afc38...@news .optusnet.com.au>,
The major advantage with photography is reproducibility. In a few
seconds (or a few hours, depending on what exposure time you use)
you get an image which later can be closely examined any number of
times by anyone. Visual observations o.t.o.h. can only be performed
- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:17:01 -0500, William Hamblen
I imaged M51 once using a pinhole! Not beautiful, but somewhat more
structure, and far more contrast, than I've ever seen visually through a
telescope.
______________________________ ___________________
Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
[link]
- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 00:49:22 +1000, "Peter Webb"
You can photograph this with a telephoto lens.
Bud
- Re: so why didnt soviets expose fake moon landing?
Why did you shut down our Usenet/newsgroups?
It seems shortly after I’d posted by usual replies to those unable or
by way of MI5/CIA policy or via faith denied the right to deductively
think for themselves, is when our Google/NOVA Usenet of public
newsgroups became rather useless and otherwise locked down by those in
- Re: Wildest dream and nightmare come true on Mars.
Wildest dream and nightmare come true on Mars
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So, was this a wet dream or a dry one? I think it must have been a wet one
in your case, complete with wet Martian dust residue. You truly are the
most bogus person ever to frequent this group, other than perhaps your
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- Re: Question
I didn't mean to suggest that there were no discussions at all. I was just
reflecting on how quiet it's been in the NG.
George
- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
Total agreement. Through a 5 inch SCT, Omega Centauri was a glow with
some stars visible. 30 seconds later with a monochromatic imager, it
"resolved" into hundreds of stars. First light for that camera too.
--- Dave
- Re: Question
You just did.
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- Re: so why didnt soviets expose fake moon landing?
snip snip
Just to make sure. You claim that with JAXA/Selene we should
"have recorded all sorts of Apollo disturbed and/or substantial debris
covered terrain within their 10 m/pixel resolution and nearly ideal 3D
viewing angle, plus having absolutely terrific DR(dynamic range) from
that TC and of its CCD plus quality telephoto optics."
- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:20:19 GMT, David Nakamoto
I agree. There might be some advantage to visual planetary astronomy
with poor seeing, or certain kinds of seeing. But even that is giving
way to video imaging, I think.
My point, really, was that planetary and lunar viewing is probably the
only case where visual observation and imaging are at least in the same
- Re: Viewing by eye versus astrophotography
On this last point, about planets and the Moon, I'll concede that with
the Moon you'll see more with the unaided eye through most telescopes
than with imaging, but my own experience is that you see more with
stacking images from a video taken with good optics and good seeing than
with the eye through the same telescope, perhaps twice the resolution,
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- Re: so why didnt soviets expose fake moon landing?
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 04:21:54 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by BradGuth
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Oh, like your refusal to accept the statement (which is
correct) regarding resolution, images and diffraction? Yeah,
I thought so too...
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